Richard Taylor:
And from an outsider looking in a formula one, it looks like there are quite a few David versus Goliath situations with the size of the teams or maybe some of the support and funding they might have. What did you see across the paddock or across the teams of the difference in sort of challenger mindsets? And when you're trying to catch up to maybe a larger organization or to a larger team, what sort of ambition did you see from those teams and how they approach strategies or races differently?
Ruth Buscombe:
I mean, I I'm a little bit biased, but I absolutely do love an underdog story. So, I think you see, you see so much of it in formula one. And I think everybody's genuinely, you know, even though we're in teams and we're competing on the track. The second that the flag drops, the second that we're out, actually, we spend six months a year with each other.
So, it is kind of a traveling circus. It's like a family industry, and people are genuinely happy for other people's success, especially, as you say, if you have, like, an underdog, uh, story, you know, come through. I think, um, in recent memory, when Pierre Gasly, uh, won Monza, um, you know, in a, in a tour of Rosso, um, that the amount of, you know, of applause that he had from every other team was phenomenal, and one of the things that I find fascinating, um, is the number of drivers that I would say in the Goliath teams that frame themselves from a sports psychology perspective as the underdog because they feel like They get the best out of it.
A lot of the time they feel like, yeah, if I'm the underdog and I've still got something to fight for, it gives them the confidence to bring out that extra one or 2%. I think it's no surprise that some of the best drives we've seen, um, in Formula One are coming through, through from the back. I mean, I think Lewis Hamilton's drive in Brazil right from the very back, um, in 2021, where he needed to get to the front.
Otherwise, the championship was over really. Enabled him to bring out that extra 1 percent was he an underdog? Absolutely not. But did, did it, did it give him the extra 1 percent you probably-
Richard Taylor:
-and with, with some of those, uh, personalities and, uh, egos, if I can say, what's the psychological safety that's required in a team environment to get everybody to be equals in the way they can think about the development and success of the team.
Ruth Buscombe:
I think it is teamwork, you know, and I think the fact that, you know, in every Formula One team, you are a team. So, I think, you know, making sure that you, you know, from a leadership perspective, you, you create a culture where operationally we have strict lines of command. Obviously, you know, you have bosses, you have information that needs to flow in certain ways.
You have to have clear deliverables about who's accountable, um, and who is making the decisions. But when we're not operational, everybody is the same. And we're one family, and we're all as important as each other. I remember Sebastian Vettel going around picking up rubbish in the grandstand. And what that did to inspire, not just people in his own team, but people in other teams.
And he's like, you know, people are leaving this, and I don't see why it should be there. And actually, if I go and do this, I know it's going to create enough of a buzz that I don't think there'll be any rubbish tomorrow. And there wasn't any rubbish for the rest of the race weekend.
Richard Taylor:
What a great reminder.
Some of the basics in life, real ownership of a team environment and doing some of those simple things. What is your current mission in your season or this season of your life? What is your, what is your mission and ambition?
Ruth Buscombe:
Well, I think, I think really challenging myself and actually learning and trying to use, um, you know, they say that you can't, um, Teaching old dog new tricks.
But, you know, I think I'm testament to the fact you can, um, and actually using all the skills I've learned within a team, repurposing them and trying to really learn new things. Um, even though, you know, I'm getting on a bit now
Richard Taylor:
and those, those skills have changed over time because I think you were quoted as saying when you were.
A young child that you had ambitions to be a princess and obviously they evolved into being an engineer for f1 Which leaders inspired you to make that change?
Ruth Buscombe:
Well, I was slightly strange a child. Um, and um, you know When I realized probably princess wasn't for me queen was going to be a much better role anyway. And you know both of the princes in my country were going to be taken, um, I really focused on maths - love maths love sports - and yeah, it was looking at the leaders that were currently in formula one So it was the technical directors, um, and seeing what subjects they did at university, how they got to their path of doing it, and then basically copied them.
Richard Taylor:
And maths took you to Cambridge, which was, or is, probably still a very male dominated environment for engineering. How did you, how did that sort of impact your learning career or your, your experience of studying at Cambridge?
Ruth Buscombe:
Um, I think it was, you know, when I was there, it was a 9 percent female in, uh, in engineering.
Um, I believe those numbers have nearly tripled. Um, I, definitely benefited from having a really good group of friends, especially a really good group of female friends. So, you know, within that 9 percent actually, they're some of my best friends to this day. So, I think, uh, you know, having good people around you, um, and all walks of life, especially when you're kind of in your formative years is super, super important.
Richard Taylor:
Yeah, that anchors essential. And now you're part of a small group of pioneering women who are leading the way in strategy for the sport itself. Does that put more pressure or is it, is it more motivating?
Ruth Buscombe:
I always say, um, well, Billie Jean King said it first, and I like to repeat it often, um, that, uh, pressure is a privilege, um, and I think, um, if you have pressure, that means something is expected of you, which means you've actually earned the right to feel that pressure.
And I think, you know, if you speak to any strategist on a pit wall, male or female, you know, the car doesn't know what gender you are, you know, the racing doesn't know what gender you are.
Richard Taylor:
No, I love that performance is performance, especially in a sport like Formula One. Now, as a final thought, what's, what's the wisest thing when it comes to teaming that you've been told or sort of learned along the way?
Ruth Buscombe:
I think in terms of, um, in terms of leadership and in terms of things, I think, you know, there's a great one that's, um, you know, work hard, be kind to people, and great things will happen. I think it's really, really important. Um, and I think that if you, if you do work hard and, you know, you are kind to people, great things do happen.
Richard Taylor:
Awesome. Well, thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you. We look forward to hearing your insights trackside as well and thank you very much for being with us today.
Ruth Buscombe:
Thank you very much.
Richard Taylor:
Thanks, Ruth.